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Senator advocates scarlet letter for DUI offenders

Look at this suggested legislation from a Florida Senator:

CBS News
A Republican senator wants a law to require bright pink license plates on vehicles driven by people with restricted driving privileges due to convictions for driving under the influence.

Sen. Mike Fasano, of New Port Richey, filed a bill earlier this month that requires the first three characters on the plate to read "DUI."

I think this is a good idea, but can you imagine the potential ramifications for implementing something like this?

license plate idea idiotic

If you have time to notice a pink license plate don't you think you'll also have time to avoid an accident? A "scarlet letter" license plate does no good when you get t-boned at an intersection or the car swerves into your lane head on at the last second. You might as well color sex offenders genitals pink because by the time the victim sees it, its already too late. I wish politicians would come up with something good for once

I don't think it is a matter

I don't think it is a matter of protecting drivers. Besides the point mentioned by snowman, most DUI's occur during the twilight hours when it's far less likely for one to notice the color of a license plate. If the Senator really believed this was to protect drivers alongside the pink-license plated drunken drivers, then he's an Republica... I mean idiot.

Futhermore, if it was for protecting drivers, wouldn't this add to dangers on the road? We will not only have to worry about drunken drivers with or without pink plates, we're going to have to watch out for sober drivers trying to avoid other sober drivers with pink plates.

Instead, as the Senator himself says ("Maybe it will embarrass people and keep them from drinking and driving," Fasano said. "Maybe they'll think twice."), this is for shaming... putting criminals up for public display and mockery in an attempt to deter drime.

I'm against it. Not only will it add to dangers on the road. It will provoke hate crimes against those driving with pink-plates and goes against the notions of forgiveness and charity that a 'Christian society' should have...which is the very reason why I see this idea being embraced in Happy Valley. Utah County Mormons tend to especially favor seeing people suffer the consequences of their actions... WWJND.

They already have this in

They already have this in Ohio, where I'm from, except they use yellow license plates instead of the proposed pink. The plates are not to act as warning to other drivers, but are, as the Senator says and tyler durden reiterates, designed to embarrass the driver. I think you get them after your second or third DUI conviction.

Apparently they work --I can't find statistics, but I heard that DUI convictions decreased after the law was made, and according to this judge's opinion, it's a better solution than "inter-lock devices," jail, house arrest, or counseling. It's amazing how fast we repent when our sins are shouted from the rooftops.

So I guess this means I'm in favor of seeing people suffer the consequences of their actions. Is that so bad? Because being able to sin without consequence was Satan's plan, right?

I'm mildly in favor

It's a bit showboaty - kind of like the "Freedom Fries" thing - but I'm generally in favor of publicly shaming those who deserve to be publily ashamed. I'd vote for it.

deserved punishment?

I have yet to form an opinion on this type of punishment. On one hand, convicted offenders deserve a harsh penalty for such an irresponsible and dangerous crime; however, I can think of several negative side-effects that could come as a result of this legislation, that I don't know if anyone deserves. There definitely needs to be a finite timeline put on it, to give the "truly penitent" a chance to come clean.

But consider all of the possibilities. Imagine how this could amplify already-heated emotions. Would drivers be less likely to heed the right-of-way to a car with a pink plate? or act even more irrationally in fits of road rage, if the annoyance was caused by a car with a pink plate? Would pink-plated cars be bigger targets for theft, break-ins, vandalism? Aside from embarrassing the convicted offender, as the law would intend, does it in any way put them in more danger, or target them more than they deserve?

If giving DUI offenders a

If giving DUI offenders a pink plate will significantly reduce drunk driving, go for it.

If it's just to humiliate them and make them targets, grow up. That doesn't solve any problems.

Utah County Mormons tend to

Utah County Mormons tend to especially favor seeing people suffer the consequences of their actions

That said, I'm all for it.

I think it's a wonderful idea.

Another thought

Tyler, which is more beneficial? Sparing DUI offenders from public ridicule? Or saving a lot of innocent people's lives?

"So I guess this means I'm

"So I guess this means I'm in favor of seeing people suffer the consequences of their actions. Is that so bad? Because being able to sin without consequence was Satan's plan, right?"

There are mixed opinions on what constituted 'Satan's plan'. However, there's a pretty strong consensus that Jesus' plan was to deliver and liberate others from suffering...including those who are suffering for their own consequences.

I thought about this some last night. I do favor public shaming and some other 'alternative' forms of rehabiliation over imprisonment, fines, etc. I'll need to think about this one some more. If it really does deter DUIs and does not cause hate crimes, then maybe i might be for it.

mmmmm

freedom fries rock. i like mine with a healthy dose of "democracy sauce" (which, as we all know, is just ketchup and mayo mixed)

WWJND?

He wouldn't drive drunk, that's for sure.

Screw the multicolored license plate - just impound their vehicles or take their licenses. THAT seems a lot more effective.

The question is whether or

The question is whether or not it actually spares lives. If it does, then maybe I might reconsider it. I guess I must be more charitable and applause those who are trying to be creative and find different ways to deal with this problem.

The thing I am looking for is whether or not it helps the convicted DUI driver really deal with his/her problem. If it does (as indictated by the testimonial in the news report below), then maybe it should be tried.

If suffering the

If suffering the consequences for actions is really why you are for this, then I am sorry Mason. I'm a teaching assistant for an ethics and values course at UVSC. Though I don't have a general population to compare the students to, there is an obvious trend of Happy Valley students, mostly Mormon, who consistently claim that people need to suffer the consequences for their actions, and thus they have no ethical reasons for helping them. This I believe is why Utah Valley Mormons tend to support capital punishment and why Utah County has no homeless shelter.

This notion goes directly against the Gospel of Christ. Jesus came to deliver us from suffering...the guilty ones! He came to alleviate the suffering of those who are suffering directly because of their cognitive actions and choices. If we are supposed to be disciples of Christ, follow him, and emulate him, shouldn't we also seek to lift up and liberate the suffering...even those who are suffering for their own actions?

Holy crap!

All this time, I thought it came straight from the teat of the Statue of Liberty herself!

Screw the multicolored

Screw the multicolored license plate - just impound their vehicles or take their licenses. THAT seems a lot more effective.

This seems more along the lines of effective punishment. I had two friends killed in alcohol related accidents. A first time offender should be required to spend at least 24 hours in jail. I hear that's a pretty good deterrent. Second-offense: take their license for life. No excuses. Drunk driving is irresponsible, and there is no way around that.

This I believe is why...

This I believe is why... Utah County has no homeless shelter.

Actually I looked into this a few months ago when a transient asked me for a ride to his house in Draper while I was pumping gas into my car at 2 a.m. All I could think to do was give him cash because I didn't have the foggiest idea where the nearest shelter was.

As it turns out, they don't have a shelter in Utah County because there aren't enough transients to justify the cost of one. Instead, charities work with local motels through a voucher system, and then work towards finding long-term housing solutions.

Oh puh-leeze

I'm a teaching assistant for an ethics and values course at UVSC.

'Nuff said. I've taken that course, and it's a joke.

Ethically, how can someone drive drunk? They KNOW the risks, yet they choose to endanger everyone's life. Wait, here come the apologetics on the tip of your tongue! He's a victim of the circumstances! He didn't choose to become an alcoholic, it was in the water! He's only a "little" drunk!

It seems that you, along with many other pseudo-philosophers, take the stance of the "lowest common denominator", and try to spin the most elaborate, woe-is-me concoction you can come up with - from justifying and endorsing illegal immigration, to excusing the repetitive bad behavior of pedophiles and convicts.

"when a homeless guy asked

"when a homeless guy asked me for a ride to his house..."

I'm confused. The homeless guy had a house?

"there aren't enough transients to justify the cost of one"

Of course there aren't any transients. If I were homeless, I'd go to Salt Lake where there are homeless shelters. From what I undertand (and I could very well be wrong) there used to be a shelter in Happy Valley, but it closed due to a lack of funding. Another one of the problems is that homeless shelters tend to be faith-based organizations, I've heard more than several times the idea that "I help out the poor by paying tithes and fast-offerings. I don't need to help out in other ways." This of course, ends up excluding many who are either unaware of, unable to receive, or for other reasons do not get help from LDS services.

got any more name-calling

got any more name-calling and pathetically retarded arguments under your belt?

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'Nuff said. I've taken that

'Nuff said. I've taken that course, and it's a joke.

So have I and I found it to be nothing of the sort. A bit of a skim over the surface, but deffinitely not a joke. Please elaborate on why you think it is.

Ethically, how can someone drive drunk?

Apparently you should have paid more attention in your "joke" of an ethics class and maybe you would have realized that there are some ethical systems that wouldn't condemn such behavior. YOUR ethics do not equal ALL ethics.

It seems that you, along with many other pseudo-philosophers, take the stance of the "lowest common denominator", and try to spin the most elaborate, woe-is-me concoction you can come up with - from justifying and endorsing illegal immigration, to excusing the repetitive bad behavior of pedophiles and convicts.

Translation: "I know I am right and I know you are wrong even though I can't explain it or back it up with well though out arguments but I refuse to have to reconsider my stance because that's SCARY... So I'll just throw out some shameless stereotypes and gross generalizations to make myself sound smart."

I was confused too, but I

I was confused too, but I can only go off what he said. I guess I originally called him homeless because he was disheveled, wearing old dirty clothes, and was carrying a huge backpack. And yet, he was asking for a ride to his house in Draper.

Why the name change?

Why the name change?

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normalizing my internet pseudonyms

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